Matt Gaetz Switches From Saving Seat To Trying To Stay Out Of Prison

Via America’s Lawyer: A bombshell letter written by Matt Gaetz associate Joel Greenberg describes how the FL representative paid for sex with at least one underage girl. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.

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*This transcript was generated by a third-party transcription software company, so please excuse any typos.

Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz is getting sucked further into scandal after the man, he allegedly paid to deliver girls to him, further implicated him in criminal activity. Joining me tonight to talk about this is Farron Cousins with the trial lawyer magazine, absolutely the best progressive in the business. I, your reporting just gets better and better. I've known you since you were a child, and every year it gets better, Farron. Really it does.

Thank you.

So let's, let's really nail this story. I look at this story and it gets weirder by the moment. You got Roger Stone kicking around in there, you got confession letters kicking around. You got Matt Gaetz hiring lawyers. He's lawyering up, paying money through his campaign income to, to, to pay, to pay his way through this. Give me your take on this story.

Um, right off the top, I think, look, Matt Gaetz understands how much trouble he is in, and there's no way he can even spin himself out of it at this point. But what we found out late last week, the Daily Beast, which who by the way, has done a phenomenal job on this story. You know, we always talk about how journalism's dead, the Daily Beast doing some great work here.

Good.

But, you know, they published these letters that they had gotten from Greenberg, where he wrote these letters to Roger Stone at Stone's request saying, hey, I'll try to get you the pardon because that's what they had been talking about in this private messaging app that Greenberg, for some reason screenshot the conversations. So we know all this is true.

Now this is one that's supposed to disappear.

Right, right. They're supposed to disappear after five.

Called Signal.

Yeah, after five seconds, but Greenberg said, let me save it. So he writes confession letters at Roger Stone's requests because Roger Stone was going to take these to Donald Trump and to the pardon committee and to Pat Cipollone. And of course, Roger Stone at the end of all of it, and this is skipping a lot of info, but Roger Stone couldn't secure the pardon for Greenberg, but did eventually get one for himself. So it worked out for Stone, not so much for Greenberg and by extension Matt Gaetz.

It sounds like the Confederacy of Dunces.

It really is.

To tell you the truth. Okay. So $250,000 is on the table. Roger, you go get me this pardon and you're going to make $250,000. And oh, by the way, if you get it by the end of tomorrow, I'm going to give you an extra $50,000. Well, Roger comes into it says, you know, I did, I did my best, but something you need to know, something you need to know, Joel. And that is that Matt Gaetz told me that he didn't want, he didn't want me to help you. He wants, he wants you out there swinging in the wind, basically. Right?

Yeah. And that is what shocked Greenberg, because Greenberg in a previous conversation had told Roger Stone, listen, I am under tremendous pressure from the feds, from the authorities to start flipping on MG, as they called him in the conversations, Matt Gaetz. So they wanted him to flip, but he was reluctant to do so because he thought he was going to get a pardon. I don't need to cut a deal with these people because everything's going to be okay. And then Stone tells him, hey, your good friend is the one who interfered and it almost, I mean, it broke poor Greenberg's heart. He was so distraught after that, he said, oh wow, he didn't know what to do. And I think that was the point where he probably picked up his phone to his lawyers and said, all right, it's time to play let's make a deal.

Yeah. So the quote is, he actually said not to help. That's what he, that's what, that's what Stone is reporting to Joel. Okay.

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