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5:19Now PlayingA terrifying revolving door has emerged between intelligence agencies and social media companies. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.
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There's a, this terrifying revolving door that's emerged between intelligence agencies and social media companies. Wow. Okay, so here again, you have reporters. They're not just talking. They're, these aren't fake reporters. These are real people, real news services, Daily Mail. And they say, we've looked at this and we can name the number of CIA agents, CIA agents, FBI agents that have directly gone to work with Facebook, with Twitter and with Google. And then they give us the names. Pick up, pick the story up. I, I, this is a remarkable story. Did you see this anywhere, anywhere on national media?
No. That, that, that's what is so frustrating about this stuff too, because yeah, they found all these CIA agents, you know, former CIA lawyer, Gina Haspel.
Yes, yes.
One of 'em. Jim Baker, also one of 'em, of course, everybody knows he was with Twitter until recently.
Yeah.
They realized, oh wait a minute. Get the hell outta here.
Yeah. He was with the FBI, CIA and then went. Yeah, exactly.
But, but what has happened here, which we've talked about with the FDA, with the SEC, the revolving door.
Right.
You take the people from industry, you put 'em in regulation, take the regulators, you put 'em in the industry. That's what's happening with this intelligence community.
Yeah.
We are sending our good agents, you now work at Facebook for some reason.
They, but you see, the problem is management knows it. They're cooperating. They're cooperating because they're getting money from the government in various ways. Just like Amazon. Okay. Amazon gets these huge government contracts, these other folks do too. So Jack Dorsey, I guess was thinking, well, wow, if I let Aaron, Aaron Berman in, or no, Aaron Berman went with, he went with Facebook. But this, this guy was, he was the service manager, he was the security service manager for Facebook. He's the guy who said, this is a story we're gonna allow. This is a story we're not going to allow. We're gonna throttle this one back, we're gonna throttle forward on this one. He was with, he, he was a spook most of his life working for the CIA.
Yeah.
You have Deborah Berman. Well, she was a former intelligence analyst with the CIA. Notoriously, notoriously secretive in what she did. But you had, she was working on, her project with Facebook was to take misinformation and decide whether we should pull that mis, misinformation or whether that misinformation is going to help us. So she decides, do we put it on, do we take it off? How many more people are there?
Oh God. There's so many.
I mean, we don't have time to go through all of them.
There's, you know, Kris Rose, who's political and counterterror, terrorism analyst at the CIA. He went to Facebook. He joined them in March of 2020. Bryan Weisbard, CIA intelligence officer, he went with, um.
LinkedIn.
LinkedIn.
Yeah.
Cameron Harris.
Yeah.
He went to Facebook. But, Scott Stern, also went.
But the point is this, the point is this, we could go, this is a huge list.
Yeah. And, and we don't even have the whole list.
But they all, no.
There's still so many more.
They came from the spook industry.
Yeah.
And people like Jack Dorsey and, and, and, and, and Zuckerberg, said, look, come to work with us. But it wasn't just, you see there was something in it for them. Let's let this spook decide what we're gonna put out there in the public. They're gonna take, they're gonna make the decisions. We're putting them in charge. But the rest of the story is when they did that, they benefited some way in all kinds of ways from the government. Just like, take Amazon again. Go back to, go, go back to that story. What was it a $600 billion contract? Was it 600 billion dollars?
A, a good portion of all the money they make actually comes from those government contracts.
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