Trump Likely Told Multiple Lies Under Oath During Deposition

Transcripts for Donald Trump's deposition - which was done under oath - in the E. Jean Carroll defamation lawsuit were unsealed this week, and a legal analyst for MSNBC says that the transcripts show that Trump likely told multiple lies, again, under oath. The analyst said that Trump's claims of "never" having touched a woman without her consent can be easily disproved by the infamous Access Hollywood tape, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins discusses this.

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*This transcript was generated by a third-party transcription software company, so please excuse any typos.

This week depositions were unsealed with regard to Donald Trump's deposition in the defamation trial that he is facing from the lawsuit filed by reporter e Jean Carroll. Back in October, Donald Trump was finally ordered to sit for this deposition, and now we've found out exactly what happened when he talked to those lawyers under oath. And that's the big thing to remember here. Everything that Donald Trump said was under oath. So according to lawyer and M S N B C host, Katie Fong, Donald Trump lied multiple times that she was able to see in these unsealed depositions. Here's what she had to say. Um, the legal significance is he steps in it over and over again. And more importantly, later on in his deposition, he basically denies flat out that he's ever touched a woman and any part of her body specifically is denying, touching a woman on her breast or buttocks or any other sexual part without her consent.

He said, no under oath. The whole world knows that on an Access Hollywood tape, he boasted about how he would grab them by the blank, and you could do it when you're a star. He's caught in repeated lies throughout the course of this sworn videotaped deposition. He also said that the whole thing was a hoax. He called her a liar. Uh, he called her a whack job in this def uh, uh, deposition. So all of that, as Fong points out later, is going to be played for the jury. And there is a good chance that that access Hollywood tape, because it is relevant to the claims made by Eugene Carroll, that Access Hollywood tape could be played in court as well. In fact, I think a good lawyer would probably play the part where he says that, no, I've never touched a woman without her consent. Boom, immediately cut to the Access Hollywood tape. And you know what? Play it a couple times like after it finishes, say, you know what? Let's hear that one more time. You can do that, by the way. And I think a very good lawyer would do that.

The question is, does that prove that he's lying in the deposition? You can't really say Yes. We know that Donald Trump has multiple, like literally several dozen of claims of assault and harassment against him, more than uh, uh, 22 women came forward to make these allegations against him. But he has never been convicted of any of them. He has never been held liable for any of them, like not even in civil court. So if you want to use the Access Hollywood tape, which Donald Trump dismissed as just locker room talk, the defense is able to go out there and say, listen, yeah, we know it probably sounds bad, but, uh, that doesn't mean anything. Dudes talk about stuff all the time, right? They embellish stuff to one another to make them sound better. That's probably what the defense is gonna come with if they, uh, are not successful in getting the Access Hollywood tape blocked in court. But will the jury buy it? Because as long as you can play those two clips together, the jury's gonna hear it and they're gonna make up their minds. So if you can do those two things together, as Katie Fong kind of points out here, I think you've got a winning case. It'll be difficult, but I think they can pull it off. This thing will head to trial in April, barring any other, you know, uh, uh, extensions or whatever. It's scheduled for April. So we'll see what happens then.