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6:29Now PlayingGoogle was recently forced to halt the rollout of their AI image generator, Gemini, after claims of the software's bias against white people. Mike Papantonio is joined by Independent newspaper publisher Rick Outzen to discuss.
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Gemini, the Gemini controversy with Google, this is a story.
This is the one I wanted to talk about.
Well, I know you do.
Because this one is amazing.
I mean, again, you're in the independent news business. You've got the best progressive newspaper, clearly in the state. Tell me your take on this with the Gemini controversy where it's like Google has lost their frigging mind.
Well, they had to pump the brakes on Gemini. It's an AI image generator. It came up with black founding fathers, a female Pope, Asian German Nazis. People asked for straight couples and they got pictures of gay couples. It is where, the whole problem is that they, the way they said was, well, we missed the mark.
Oh, you think?
And that we overcompensated to show diversity.
They were representing female popes. They were representing African-American who were Nazi SS soldiers. You think they might've gotten it wrong?
Well, and no guard rails.
No guardrails at all.
The difference is, I think, in reading, trying to read what Google posted on their website, and look at it, is they were so worried about gender diversity. So if someone put in CEO that it wouldn't be all male CEOs or whatever. But when you do that, when you start your Google search is about not what the world is, but what the world you want it to be.
What you want it to be.
Your dream world.
So what they did, Rick, they hit the DEI button, right, load DEI, they let the algorithms take it from there. The algorithms went crazy. And all of a sudden you have this garbage, I mean, absolute garbage. Now they say, oh, we can fix it. You can't fix this quickly. You agree with that?
Well, it's the same people who made it are gonna fix it. And they rushed it. We know that. They rushed this. And it is all about the algorithm, Mike. We know that. We know that just in ordinary searches, the people that get moved up in the search are the ones that have figured out how to rig the system or have paid to be hire in the system.
Isn't this an opportunity for Microsoft and Bing and Yahoo to at once, you have to do something about the reach of Google. Google has become so strong that nobody thinks, I don't think to go to Bing. And I will now, I mean Microsoft or any of that, those are great search sites. They really are good search sites. But Google has moved into this area to such that we allow them to do this kind of insanity. Absolute insanity. Where if a child does a search, tell me about Nazi soldiers and an African-American soldier comes up with an SS insignia on the side of his helmet, or tell us about who the popes have been and some female fabricated Pope shows up. It's all, it's insanity in the way that we're trying to project ideas and concepts, isn't it?
It is. Because we used to see in the early days of the computer, we would get on a search engine and try to find really interesting websites because everything was new to us. We didn't, you would put in, if you were going somewhere, you'd put that location in and they would tell you, and would find fascinating websites that were different and it was fun and you trusted it.
How can you trust?
You can't trust it now.
How can you trust Google now?
You can't.
After this story. It's not just the AI, it's not just the Gemini issue. It's the site in general. How do we know what they're pushing or what they're throttling back? We know when we do stories, and I know you've seen the same thing, when we do a story that doesn't gel with their political concept, they throttle it back. There's no question about it. They will throttle it back. And so how do we trust them at all, as it is, much less when we know now that their AI has gone frigging crazy and making, just making stuff up. Just absolutely making stuff up outta thin air.
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