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8:47Now PlayingPresidential polls don’t provide any good news for anyone – regardless of who you are supporting for President. In fact, the public seems to favor anyone other than the people we have running. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.
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Presidential polls don't provide any good news for anyone regardless of who you're supporting for president. In fact, the public seems to favor, there's no favoritism either way on who's running, you know, they're not crazy about Biden. They're not crazy about Trump. But they add one more factor and that's third party. Right? Add that into this.
Yeah. Once you, when you look at the two-way races right now, I think recently Biden's pulled ahead by a couple points in the overall aggregate. But then you throw in the X factors where you have Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Cornel West, possibly even Jill Stein, suddenly you got a very real competition taking place here where the public says, oh, good. I don't have to pick one of the men that's knocking on the door of 80 years old. I can go to somebody else. And it does, right now, the way the polls are looking, it definitely takes a bigger bite out of Biden's crowd than it does with Trump's crowd.
I don't have to go to somebody who's certifiably crazy or certifiably on death's bed. I now have an option. Even though the point is this, it's a one point difference in favor of Trump, whoever you put in there. When you put a Kennedy, isn't it two points? And if it's just Kennedy, it's two points.
Yeah.
So, the point being to all that is that the polls are hard to understand right now. You said, well, Biden's ahead. Well, not in the key states. The key states, he's having real problems and the swing states is where this is gonna matter. Don't you think? Tell me if I'm wrong about that.
Oh, absolutely. What I'm talking about is just the overall aggregate polling. There was more that came out this morning where he has two to three points, again, nationally. But yeah, you start breaking it down to the swing states and suddenly you've got Biden may pull ahead. Like recently he pulled ahead in Pennsylvania by I think 10 points. But another problem we have right now is they're calling a lot of states swing states that are not swing states. They're calling Georgia a swing state. That was a fluke. It is a red state. Florida's a swing state. No, it's not. Come spend some time down here. You're gonna realize quickly.
What, we've got a million more Republican people signed up in Florida.
Right. Like, forget Florida. So you've got some weirdness happening there. But we spent a lot of time ahead of the 2020 election and 2016 election talking about these polls almost on a weekly basis. But I think this year we're dealing with so much uncertainty that I don't know how much stock I put into any of these. Things could be much worse for Biden than they look, they could be much worse for Trump than they look. They could be better for Bobby than they look. So, who knows?
Well, okay. So Bobby right now is what, 10 points, 10%?
Yeah. I think that was.
Ross Perot got to as high as 20, but he got to as high as 20 during this period of time. That's where he really started climbing. The media, of course, has blocked Kennedy out, totally. At least I do remember when Ross Perot could at least get on stage and you would listen to Ross Perot. You'd go, what the hell is he talking about? He'd have charts and all that kinda stuff. But they gave him access. And here the media, they won't give any of these candidates access. Matter of fact, with Bobby, it goes as far as his mother showing up at the White House, having the whole family in a shot, and I thought about, you know what that's about, it's about their need for celebrity access to the White House. That's what that's all about. This is your son you're talking about, and you say, okay.
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