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James Carville Says He Knows Why Democrats Failed In 2024

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I love this story that you found, and it is where Carville is interviewed and he's saying, nothing has changed between the time that I helped get Clinton elected and now. The American public has not made this vast, vast change in the way they view the political world. He said, it comes down to this, the economy stupid. That's where he lands in all this. He said, he almost went as far as saying, he didn't say this, but he says all this other noise. The old senile president who bumbles and stumbles and can't complete a sentence on some days, doesn't know where he is. That we've forgotten about, that wouldn't have even been a problem. Okay. It wouldn't have even been a problem if we would've talked about the issue or the cackler in charge, the Harris cackler, the Mad Cackler. We could have even gotten past that. You see, we could have even got past that personality problem that this woman has. We could have gotten past that all if we would've talked about what the American public cared about. And now what's interesting is the number of times you appeared and you said it's simple, while all this noise was going on, it's simple. People think eggs are too expensive. Right?

Yeah. And look, on your point there, they would've overlooked Biden, they would've overlooked Harris. They did overlook Trump being, by definition, a convicted felon. They looked over January 6th. All of that meant nothing because these are the people in power. My life is not good and I need somebody else because I've given them four years. My situation hasn't improved. Let's go back to the new old. So they did that. So yes, the public is willing to overlook lot of things. Doesn't matter Democrat, Republican, they overlook so much when their personal situations are bad enough and that is what we have seen.

Well, I think it's interesting though. I think it's interesting. This is something that you and I were talking about many times in these shows, while all this noise is going on. While we had, think about it, the failures that the Democrats. First of all, it started with virtue signaling. Let me back up. Let's back this thing up and say, what was the arena? What did it look like? It was this arena where you had Democrats, to me, the worst kind of virtue signaling. You had Obama out telling African Americans that they're not black unless they vote for Biden. It didn't work. You had Hillary out telling women that you're not a strong woman if you vote for Trump, you see. You had J-Lo and a whole gaggle of people out saying to the Hispanic community, you're not Hispanic. You're not a caring Hispanic if you vote for Trump. All of that failed, all of the, what I call the virtue signaling. It all failed. This political identity, the political identity politics, it failed. It was a miserable failure. And so all of that was noise and I think that's what Carville's saying. That was noise and you ignored the thing right in front of you. People thought eggs were too expensive.

And when Carville helped Clinton win in 92, in 96 again, they had a board in their office, Carville and Begala, the big giant board only had one thing written on it and it was, it's the economy, stupid.

Right.

Nothing else goes on that board. Every day they walk in and they see that. That is their message to the American public and it worked because it was true and it's been true in almost every election since then.

It absolutely has been.

But the Democrats did not focus on that. Instead, what they told us time and time again, and MSNBC was horrible with it, they told us, look how good the economy is. Look at these numbers on the chart. The chart goes up. Okay, well, what is the chart?

They're still doing it, Farron. They're still doing it.

The chart is employment, which yes, employment was better. And the chart was the stock market, which most Americans have no money in at all. So it didn't affect them. But the thing with the job, and I've mentioned this whenever I talk about jobs numbers, I've gone through the horrible boring process of actually reading jobs reports.

Thank you for that.

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