Big Pharma Freaks Out Over Threat Of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

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So Farron, the pharma industry has gone crazy about what they feel the threat of RFK is, Robert Kennedy Jr. Full disclosure, he's a personal friend of mine. I've known him for a long time. I support what he's trying to do here. But I also know a lot about the other side. I know about the pharma industry. I know that they're worried about things like he's talking about doing away with pharma advertising where you turn on the television and every eight minutes there's a new drug ad. The industry themselves won't do anything about it because they're making so much money. New Zealand's the only place in the world that does that besides us. So he's talking about that's a stupid idea because you have people going to their doctor saying, I want this drug.

Instead of the doctor telling you what you need, you tell the doctor what you want, and yeah, that's always been a problem ever since we started allowing that in the nineties. It's flat out stupid is what it is. But the pharmaceutical lobby was so powerful that they convinced Congress to do this. Bill Clinton signed it and next thing you know, this is the way it is. And I agree, we got to get rid of that a hundred percent. So you do have this group, I forget their name, it's not right in front of me, but it is a group that is funded by pharmaceutical industry. It's funded by others in the medical industry, and it's got a lot of big Democratic donors behind it. So that has to be talked about when you talk about the rest of the story. Sludge on Monday actually put out a big report on this group and all the Democrat donor money that's flowing into it. But the question is, does that undermine the fact that you do have 15,000 doctors who say this isn't the guy for the job. So obviously the money has an interest in it.

Let me respond to that just a second. You can't separate the doctor industry from the pharmaceutical industry. It's almost impossible. These are the people, there's doctor kickbacks, there's doctor entertainment. They go on exotic vacations. They have such a tie to the pharmaceutical industry. That's where they get all of their key opinion leaders. When we dealt with the opioid case, for example, doctors coming out of the woodwork, can we go around and make speeches for you and you pay us $500,000 a speech to say there's no problems with Oxycontin? It's a really good drug. It's nothing addictive. You can't separate the pharma industry from the doctor industry. After doing this for 40 years, being a lawyer that's always suing pharma, I'm always on the other side of some doctor who somehow benefited from the pharma industry.

Well, let me use that example because you just teed this up perfectly. If we can't trust the doctors because they're tied to pharma, can we trust the lawyers because that pharmaceutical company's got a corporate lawyer sitting over there? If we can't divorce one group from the other, how do we divorce this group from that one? The plaintiff's lawyers and the corporate lawyers because obviously the corporate lawyers will do anything for money, just like some of these doctors.

Well, just like some plaintiff's lawyers too.

And so, I don't think we can lump all doctors in here. You've got a doctor that I know you trust.

Yeah. It's not that I don't trust doctors. It is they're an extension of the pharmaceutical industry in so many ways that, and I guess I've just grown into that because I've seen it firsthand for so long.

Right. And let me point out to everybody here, you really have seen the worst of the worst and I don't want to say that that warps your view of it, but it shapes it, obviously.

No, there's no question.

When all you do is get to see the horrible side.

The sociopaths. Where I'm sitting, Farron, you and I have talked about, there's very few depos that I've taken.

I've watched the videos of these depositions. They're crazy.

At the level that I take them. I take them of CEOs and few people in that area. They're sociopaths. They're absolutely sociopaths and they're so desperate to destroy Bobby's chances here. They're horrified about what he's talking about.