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Calley Means on the turning point of the 2024 election
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0:58Now PlayingCalley Means — senior adviser to Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — calls that night in Phoenix “one of the most electric political moments I’ve ever seen.”
When RFK Jr. stood with Donald Trump, a new coalition was born. And from the top down, the message has been clear: take on the big issues no one else would touch.
As Calley recalls, President Trump tells Secretary Kennedy: “I’ll handle the blowback. Just go drive change.”
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