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Jake Tapper: Trump Texted "Total Obliteration"—Then Ghosted Me | The Bulwark Podcast

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A new kind of McCarthyism has settled in at the Justice Department, where career prosecutors—including those handling tough national security cases—are getting canned for voicing any opposition to politically-motivated demands from top DOJ officials. And those who survive the ongoing purge are literally working in fear that they are being surveilled by the FBI. Meanwhile, MTG may play a role in resolving the shutdown. Plus, Tapper's timely new book, his maybe/maybe not text interview with Trump, and the heat he's still taking over his earlier Biden book. Jake Tapper joins Tim Miller.

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Jake's new book out Tuesday, "Race Against Terror"

Jake and Alex Thompson's book on Biden, "Original Sin"

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