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Trump’s Legal Blitz Has Hit a Wall (w/ George Packer) | The Bulwark Podcast

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Americans were already losing touch with basic decency before Trump came along—and he exploited that indecency, distrust, and division to win power. In his new novel, George Packer spins a story of an imaginary country that just collapses, and how ordinary people have to learn how to live together again. Fiction has a way of making the real world more clear. Plus, Charlie Kirk's influence on our political climate before his death, JD's phoniness and lust for power, Trump may be flailing but he's still amassed immense power, and how AI moving us away from the written word threatens our democracy.

George Packer joins Tim Miller for the holiday weekend pod.

Show Notes:

George's new book, "The EmergencyA Novel"

Tim's playlist

George's piece on Arizona and Charlie Kirk from last year

"The Talented Mr. Vance" piece by George

Other books by George:

"The Assassins' Gate"

"The UnwindingAn Inner History of the New America"

"Last Best HopeAmerica in Crisis and Renewal"

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George PackerPlus Charlie Kirk'sTim MillerShow NotesThe Emergency A NovelCharlie KirkThe Talented Mr VanceGeorge Other

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