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34:45Now PlayingThe first episode of The State of It, a new podcast from The Times and Sunday Times, discusses the rise of Reform UK, whether Nigel Farage is ready to lead a government and asks if they be trusted to manage Britain’s economy. Join political heavyweights Steven Swinford, Caroline Wheeler, Patrick Maguire and Gabriel Pogrund as they give you the latest tea room tip offs, reveal insider conversations and bring analysis, authority and insight.
No party loyalty. No spin. Not hosted by some old politicians. Taking you into the real business of politics, as only those who live it can.
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Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times
Caroline Wheeler, political editor, The Sunday Times
Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times
Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday Times
Producer: Euan Dawtrey
Executive producer: Molly Guinness
Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk
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