Why the Ultra Rich Are Pouring Billions Into Defense, AI & Healthcare

In this episode of The Holy Grail of Investing Podcast, Tony Robbins and Christopher Zook sit down with Ramzi Musallam, CEO and Managing Partner of Veritas Capital. Under Ramzi’s leadership, Veritas has grown from $2 billion AUM into a $50+ billion platform operating within private equity and private credit.

Ramzi shares his journey from the early days of private equity when it was still a “cottage industry”, to navigating the loss of his partner, and rebuilding Veritas into one of the world’s most respected firms. He opens up about the resilience required to overcome personal and professional challenges, the importance of focus, and how Veritas carved out its niche at the intersection of government and technology.

From national security and defense to healthcare, education, and infrastructure, Ramzi explains why investing in mission-critical industries not only creates enduring value but also impacts millions of lives. This conversation blends lessons from private equity with a visionary look at how technology and leadership can drive progress in the most vital sectors of society.

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