February 4, 2026
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1:02:53Now PlayingWhat happens when the enriching – and high profile – job you worked your whole life to obtain smashes into your moral compass? When do you quit and how do you leave? What happens next and how does this impact your career and perspective on the horizon? Hear from three top level officials who resigned from three different professions – over Biden’s Israeli policies, the Department of Justice handling of the Eric Adams case and AI safety – who faced down that choice, and now speak from the other side of resigning.
Featuring Josh Paul, former director of congressional and public affairs for the Bureau of Political-Military Affairs at the State Department; John Keller, former Acting Chief of DOJ’s Public Integrity Section (PIN); and Liz O’Sullivan, former director of customer solutions at Clarifai, where she first spoke out publicly about the limitations of AI in high-risk scenarios. Moderated by Leigh Ann Caldwell, chief Washington correspondent at Puck News.
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