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7:02Now PlayingWatch the full episode of Real Talk with Zuby with Abdu Murray here
In this video, Zuby sits down with Abdu Murray to explore how he understands Jesus Christ as both fully God and fully human. Abdu explains the incarnation as God “enfleshed,” describing how the second person of the Trinity takes on humanity without losing divinity. He unpacks the difference between “person” and “nature,” showing how Jesus holds two natures divine and human in one person. Using relatable examples, he illustrates how Jesus voluntarily restrains His power (kenosis) while still performing miracles, forgiving sins, and fulfilling a unique purpose: to live as a perfect representative for humanity and pay a debt we cannot. Abdu shares why this view of God’s condescension, sacrifice, and timing makes Christian theism deeply coherent and compelling to him.
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