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Zuby sits down with the Hodgetwins to talk about race, identity, and the double standards that exist around racism in modern America. The Hodgetwins push back on the idea that black people can't be racist, the permanent victim narrative pushed on black Americans, and why the "African American" label is something they reject entirely — arguing they're simply American. Zuby adds his perspective as a British-Nigerian, agreeing that framing black history purely as victimhood rather than triumph is deeply disempowering. A candid, unfiltered, and at times funny conversation about identity politics, conservative black voices, and what it really means to be American.
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