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A 72-Year-Old Pastor: America is in Chaos

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Zuby sits down with Pastor Douglas Wilson to talk about how America went from a buttoned-up, disciplined society to the cultural chaos we're living in today, and why he believes it all traces back to the rejection of Christ. Douglas walks through the delayed reaction disintegration that began when prayer was removed from schools, exploded in the late 1960s with the sexual revolution, and has been cascading ever since, with each absurdity setting the stage for the next. He shares what it was actually like to live through the 60s firsthand, describing it as simultaneously disorienting and exhilarating, and makes the case that we are still in the middle of the cafeteria food fight that started back then. A fascinating, historically rich, and deeply theological conversation about Western decline, cultural collapse, and why it's Christ or chaos.

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