White Christian Women Didn't Just Follow Patriarchy — They Helped Build It (with Kristin Du Mez)

Kristin Kobes Du Mez, author of Live, Laugh, Love, reveals how white Christian women like Elisabeth Elliot didn't just follow patriarchy — they helped build it through Christian publishing, discipleship and evangelical culture that still fuels Christian nationalism. Part 2 of 3.

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In this second part of a friendly, wide-ranging conversation, Pat Kahnke and co-host Renee Horsman talk with historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez about her new book Live, Laugh, Love: The Secret History of White Christian Women and the World They Made — the companion to Jesus and John Wayne. Kristin shares the erased story of Elisabeth Elliot's deconstruction era, why evangelical women were not simply tricked but taught, mentored and formed, and why patriarchy in evangelicalism would not survive if women weren't its most effective enforcers, authors and publishers.

We trace the shift from manipulation to formation, the difference between discipleship and brainwashing, evangelical totalism as a closed system that is impossible to falsify, and why authoritarian leaders feel like obedience to God to those formed inside the system — essential context for understanding Christian nationalism and MAGA politics.