2: Manson, Music & Massacres: Psychics Investigate w/ Owen Elliot-Kugell - Calling Out Susan Pinsky

Countless people involved with the Manson murders were also connected to the FBI, CIA, and MK-Ultra experiments. Psychic mediums join Owen Elliot-Kugell (daughter of Mama Cass) to investigate strange events before and after the Manson family massacres. Who introduced Charles Manson to Hollywood celebrities? Was Sharon Tate the real target – or simply in the wrong place at the wrong time? Was Manson hired to assassinate a starlet to bury what she knew about President Kennedy?

Owen Elliot-Kugell lost her iconic singer-songwriter mom Cass Elliot at age seven. Raised by her aunt and uncle in L.A., she met husband Jack Kugelland they live with kids Zoe and Noah in the San Fernando Valley. On May 7, 2024, she released her debut memoir, My Mama, Cass (Hachette Book Group), a blend of love story, mystery, and self-discovery, with rare photos and interviews from Cass’s famous friends and fans.

Eddie Conner is a Soul Intuitive, author, and cohost of the "Coming Aut with Liz & Eddie Podcast." He has appeared on The Morning Show Australia, CNN.com, The Associated Press, and the Ghosts and the Afterlife Documentary. Conner was featured in CBSLocal.com's "Best Psychics and Mediums in Los Angeles" issue. He offers psychic readings and teaches practical spiritual living techniques, drawing from his experiences growing up in rural North Carolina and his journey to Los Angeles. Find more at

Melissa Cubillas is a toprated, internationally known psychic medium from New York. A former celebrity makeup artist, MC revealed her spiritual gifts on Oxygen’s Living Different and has since dedicated her life to connecting people with loved ones in spirit. Known for her nononsense style, humor, and compassion, she works with everyone from everyday folks to Alist celebrities and royalty. She’s been featured on BRAVO, Lifetime, NBC Universal. Follow her at

Emilie Hagen is a comedian and actress who appeared in Sam & Cat, Bizaardvark, and Trailer Park BoysOut Of The Park. She is the host of the Emilie Knows Everything podcast and writes for House Inhabit. Follow her at

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「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Calling Out explores spiritual phenomenon with the world's top psychics, mediums, astrologers, and clairvoyants, in a live show hosted by Susan Pinsky and a recurring cast of celebrity guests. Viewers and listeners are invited to call in for answers about loved ones, paranormal activity, and to receive advice from our guides on love, loss, and living your best life. | Produced by: Susan Sailer Pinsky, Kaleb Nation | Director: Kaleb Nation | Talent Coordinator: Robin De Lano | Creator & Host: Susan Sailer Pinsky

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