Independent Americans with Paul Rieckhoff
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Episode 394: Governor-Elect Mikie Sherrill. Is She THE Moderate Model for Democrats?
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29:58Now PlayingWhy She Won Independents. How Combat & Motherhood Prepared Her to Lead. Hegseth, Kelly & Venezuela. Football Friday: What She’d Say to Trump Tomorrow at Army-Navy. The Clapper.
New Jersey Governor-Elect Mikie Sherrill—Naval Academy grad, former helicopter pilot, mom of four and one of America’s most important rising leaders—joins Paul just one day before the Army-Navy game to talk about service, courage and standing up to Donald Trump in real time. She explains why Trump’s rush toward a war with Venezuela is “almost incomprehensible,” why the mounting evidence of war crimes under Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is so dangerous for the military, and how veterans like Sherrill and Senator Mark Kelly are pushing back and reminding troops they must follow the law and the Constitution—not illegal orders.
Sherrill breaks down how she won New Jersey, why independents trusted her to freeze utility rate hikes on day one, and what servant leadership looks like when you’ve actually worn the uniform and still shop at Costco, order Halloween costumes online, and worry about your kids’ mental health like everyone else. She and Paul dig into the pressure Trump is putting on the Guard, the stakes for governors like Wes Moore and Sherrill if deployments expand, and why this moment demands governors who understand national security, not partisan theatrics.
It’s Football Friday, so Paul and Governor-Elect Sherrill also make NFL picks, trash-talk each other over Army-Navy, and preview next year’s Army-Navy Game at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey—with Sherrill promising to “do it up right” as host and unapologetic Navy fan. Plus: Paul’s “dad hack” Christmas-tree clapper tip, Sherrill’s “something good” about seeing her midshipmen in Baltimore, and why this episode is a blueprint for how veterans can still rise, lead and win in a Trump-dominated era.
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