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Can the Catholic Church Quit the Culture Wars? | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

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On this episode of "Interesting Times," Ross Douthat is joined by Father James Martin, a Jesuit priest and an editor of America Magazine, to reflect on the legacy of Pope Francis and the challenges facing the next papacy.

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This episode of “Interesting Times” was produced by Elisa Gutierrez, Sophia Alvarez Boyd, Andrea Betanzos and Katherine Sullivan. It was edited by Jordana Hochman. Engineering by Pat McCusker and Isaac Jones. Cinematography by Marina King. Video editing by Arpita Aneja and Dani Dillon. Original music by Isaac Jones, Sonia Herrero, Pat McCusker and Aman Sahota. Fact-checking by Kate Sinclair, Michelle Harris and Mary Marge Locker. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Directed by Jonah M. Kessel. The director of Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.

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