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The Trump administration is defending the fatal shooting by an ICE agent in Minneapolis. The mobilization of immigration enforcement has been a key component of the administration’s deportation strategy. Last year, Ross Douthat sat down with Vice President JD Vance to ask what he thinks a successful immigration policy entails and if the White House approach stands up to moral scrutiny. Vice President Vance answers in this clip.
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