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2:28:53Now PlayingKatie talks to Iranian historian & sociologist Behrooz Ghamari about the revolutionary spirit of Iran & how it managed to strike a major victory against Israel & the U.S. But first, Katie talks about Colombia, the World Cup & more w/ Ajamu Baraka, a Colombia-based human rights defender, former Green Party Vice Presidential nominee & national organizer for the Black Alliance for Peace & Clau O'Brien Moscoso, a Peruvian activist & journalist.
01:15:20 what Israel vs what U.S. wants
01:23:00 “the most consequential CIA operation”
01:48:45 Behrooz’s arrest & time on death row
01:50:35 “your politics can't be an extension of your trauma”
01:59:50 diaspora calls for bombing Iran is “a scene from the theater of the absurd”
-where is reconstruction funds going to go?
Behrooz Ghamari is an Iranian-born American historian, sociologist, & professor, known for his work on the Iranian revolution & its aftermath. He is a fellow at the Center for Place, Culture, & Politics at the CUNY Graduate Center & is affiliated w/ the Institute of Iranian Studies at the University of Toronto. Formerly, he was Professor & Chair of the Department of Near Eastern Studies & Director of the Center for Iran & Persian Gulf Studies at Princeton University. He is the author of four books on different aspects & historical context of the Iranian revolution of 1979 & its aftermath: "Islam & Dissent in Post-Revolutionary Iran"; "Foucault in Iran: Islamic Revolution after the Enlightenment"; "Remembering Akbar: Inside the Iranian Revolution," & most recently "The Long War on Iran: New Events, Old Questions."
Ajamu Baraka is a geopolitical analyst, organizer, writer, human rights defender, & veteran of the U.S. Black Liberation Movement. Baraka is the founder of the Black Alliance for Peace (BAP) & currently serves as the director of BAP’s North-South Project for People(s)-Centered Human Rights. Recently Baraka co-founded the International Coalition to Stop Genocide in Gaza to support the South African case filed w/ the International Court of Justice. In 2016 Baraka was a candidate for Vice President of the U.S. on the Green Party ticket. He currently serves on the Executive Committee of the U.S. Peace Council & the leadership body of the United National Anti-War Coalition (UNAC). He is an editor & contributing columnist for the Black Agenda Report. He is the recipient of the Serena Shirm award for uncompromised integrity in journalism & the US Peace Memorial’s Peace Prize.
Clau O'Brien Moscoso is a journalist, organizer, & co-coordinator of the Black Alliance for Peace Haiti/Americas Team. Originally from Barrios Altos, Lima, Peru, & raised in Kearny, New Jersey, she is a regular correspondent for the Black Agenda Report, where she frequently reports on political crises, neocolonialism, & U.S. intervention in countries like Peru, Ecuador, & Bolivia. She conducted a high-profile, exclusive two-part conversation in 2026 w/ former Bolivian president Evo Morales regarding the political & economic crisis in Bolivia. In addition to her role at the Black Alliance for Peace, she is a member of the North-South Project for People(s)-Centered Human Rights.
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