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My guest today is the writer and psychotherapist Phyllis Chesler. Her bestselling book, 'Women and Madness', published in 1972, was one of the most influential books of the second wave. She has spent a lifetime writing about and campaigning on feminist issues including honour killings, the surrogacy industry, child custody, and the treatment of women in mental health institutions.
We spoke and Phyllis' recollections of the women's movement, including her relationships with Gloria Steinem, Andrea Dworkin, Kate Millett, and Shulamith Firestone. We also spoke about where feminism has gone wrong, via 'trashing' and the misplaced priorities of the contemporary movement.
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