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We Can’t Fill 480,000 Jobs But Here’s The Real Problem | Thomas Tull #468 | The Way I Heard It

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Thomas Tull went into the jungle with nothing… and came out owning a piece of the Steelers and building Legendary Films. Not kidding.

I met Thomas at an energy conference in Pittsburgh, and five seconds into our conversation, I knew he was thinking about the same problem I constantly talk about: the workforce and the uncomfortable math behind it. Thomas—the founder of Legendary Entertainment, investor in American manufacturing, and guitarist with Ghost Hounds—sits down with me to talk about the things that actually matter right now: work ethic, workforce education, manufacturing jobs, the skilled trades, and what happens when we “create” jobs that nobody is trained—or willing—to do.

We also get into the bigger questions people don’t like to ask out loud: Why does it feel like we’re running new tools with old tactics? What happens when AI reshapes every corner of the economy? And why is “authenticity” starting to feel like the only real currency left?

Thomas grew up poor in upstate New York with a single mom. He’s built companies, backed high-tech manufacturing, worked alongside extraordinary talent (including Christopher Nolan), and still talks like a guy who remembers exactly where he came from. We discuss the “luck quotient,” intellectual honesty, what it costs to build something real, and why the backbone of this country isn’t made of influencers—it’s made of teachers, cops, firefighters, nurses, and the trades. If you’ve ever wondered how success really works or why America can’t fill the jobs it keeps promising, this conversation is worth your time.

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