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27:11Now PlayingICE at airports. TSA lines out the door. And a new boss at DHS amid its funding shutdown.
After the deaths on the streets of Minneapolis, after the theatrics of Greg Bovino, after the drama of Kristi Noem, ICE may be entering a new era. Markwayne Mullin was confirmed as the new DHS head, having struck a softer tone than his predecessor during hearings. He told senators that he would stop the practice of agents entering people’s houses without judicial warrants. But what will this new era look like?
Our guest is the Atlantic staff writer Nick Miroff, who covers immigration.
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