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Rolfe, a severely disabled caller, asks whether his pro-choice stance amounts to supporting eugenics when he believes parents should be able to terminate pregnancies upon discovering severe disabilities. Hosts Forrest and Justin explain the difference between historical eugenics and individual reproductive choice, emphasizing that choosing not to continue a pregnancy differs fundamentally from harming living people. The conversation shifts to predestination and free will, where Justin argues that an omniscient God who set creation in motion necessarily predetermined all outcomes, including disabilities. Rolfe maintains that "if there are any gods, they owe all of us an apology." Finally, Rolfe discusses his inability to have faith and his frustration at being expected to master multiple scientific disciplines just to justify his lack of belief, while believers face no equivalent burden of proof.
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