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Tom from Michigan calls in questioning how humans could evolve so quickly after the dinosaurs went extinct when we haven't changed much in 3 million years. Evolutionary biologist Erika patiently explains that Tom has his timescales completely confused—life began 4 billion years ago, not 65 million years ago, and human evolutionary pace is actually perfectly normal. The conversation takes a sharp turn when Tom mentions he's convinced he had a supernatural experience where his thoughts were being read. Matt Dillahunty challenges Tom on his epistemology, asking why he applies skepticism to evolution but not to his supernatural belief. Things get tense when Matt points out that Tom's certainty about supernatural experiences could harm others with actual psychological conditions by validating their delusions and discouraging treatment. Despite the contentious moments, Tom remains receptive and agrees to apply more consistent skepticism across all his beliefs.
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