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5:28Now PlayingAccording to a former staffer that has been cooperating with the DOJ, Donald Trump personally oversaw and directed staffers to pack up confidential White House documents and send them to Mar-a-Lago. This is the first time that we have had concrete evidence that Trump was not a passive player in the document scandal, and this could be the "smoking gun" that we have been waiting for. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains what's happening.
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According to an employee of Donald Trump's, who has been cooperating with the fbi, turning over evidence, and of course, corroborating security camera footage, the employee claims that Donald Trump personally instructed staffers to move the classified documents in Mar Lago from where they had been stored over to his private residence at the Gulf Resort. This happened prior to the search, of course, on August 8th at Mar Lago by the fbi. But it happened after the National Archives had made multiple requests to Donald Trump to return all of these documents. So rather than listening to the National Archives, rather than complying and giving them back their materials that he stole, and of course, reports do suggest that Donald Trump personally oversaw the packing of the documents at the White House. Now, we know that Donald Trump attempted to hide them from the National Archives by moving them over to his private residents.
This is according to information obtained by the Washington Post. They have spoken with people, I believe, at the Bureau who have corroborated this. They said they've got multiple witnesses who are telling us the story that fits in perfectly with the surveillance camera footage. We know this is what happened. So now what we still have to do is get firm evidence that Donald Trump told people at the White House to pack the documents and ship them to Malago. Now, as I said, we've had reports from some individuals saying that that is what happened, right? Donald Trump told us to pack these things up. Donald Trump knew he was packing up things he wasn't allowed to have. You had White House counselor, Pat Sipi at the time, telling Trump don't take these things. So I would say that that is firm enough evidence to conclude that Donald Trump did in fact, direct White House staffers to pack the documents.
They took him down to Malago. Then, based on this new timeline of information we have, once the heat was put on him by the National Archives to return the documents, it was at that point that Donald Trump told staffers, Hey guys, I got all these boxes over here. I need 'em put in my private residence. So we knew he wasn't supposed to take 'em from the White House, but he did it anyway. He knew the National Archives wanted them back, but instead of returning them, he decided to hide them. And that, of course, is what led to the FBI going down to Malago. But of course, in between there, we also had Donald Trump's lawyers lying to the Department of Justice and the National Archives saying that we swear under,
You know, penalty of law, that we've returned all the documents. Nothing more to see here, folks, but the surveillance footage gave them away. That, of course, is what led to the FBI going down to Malago, and now the witnesses are corroborating the information, explaining what we saw or what the FBI saw on that surveillance footage. This is getting worse, right? All signs, of course, at this point do point directly to Donald Trump. He was not a passive player in any part of this scandal, and that is the big thing, right? In order to prove a crime was committed, you have to be able to prove the intent. So, if we take Pat Sips word that he did tell Trump, you're not allowed to have these, don't take them, and Trump did it anyway, then we have Trump for actually taking the documents. Number two, lying to the doj, FBI National Archives about returning it all. We know now that that didn't happen.
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