Ron DeSantis Prepares To Challenge Democrats With Presidential Run

Ron DeSantis is the clear front-runner for 2024 right now, but that might work against him in the long run. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.

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Ron DeSantis is the clear front runner for 2024 right now for the Republicans. But that, that might work against him in the long run. They've done so many studies on this. They look at, I, I think the best example was, was Bush. You know, little, what's his name?

Jeb. Jeb.

Jeb Bush. Little Jeb. Okay. So Little Jeb is, you know, he's out there, he's the front runner. He does kind of what Biden did in the president election. He kind of goes down to the cellar, disappears. Nobody, he doesn't talk to anybody, doesn't talk to the media, nobody knows where he is. It's, it was kind of the Biden approach really.

Yeah.

And you know, it obviously worked for Biden, but it didn't work, it didn't work for the little Bush did it?

No, absolutely not. Jeb, you know, was the clear front runner. Had over a hundred million raised and he thought, I've got this. I don't have to do anything because it's in the bag. And the more he stayed hidden, the less he said publicly, it gave rise to this whole crop of Republican candidates in 2015, 2016, who absolutely humiliated Jeb. I mean, ended any future prospects he may have had.

Totally.

He was so embarrassed that his career and possibly for the whole Bush family is just done now. It's done.

It was, it was like a blood bath every time. Once he got it, he said, well, I can't just sit here. Yeah. I'm a front runner. I've been governor of Florida, I'm in good shape and I'm gonna sit here and be quiet. So the question is, what's DeSantis gonna do? I don't see him doing that because he's already kind of out there. If anything, you know, we don't know. I guess the, the next analysis probably is, is, is DeSantis weighed against Scott Walker, which is a big stretch. Scott Walker was just a, a character without any personality. No charisma. Intellectually, he was a big dope. Everything came out of his mouth was stupid talk. You don't have that with DeSantis.

But I, I do see a lot of parallels between the two here.

Okay.

Because we talked a lot about Scott Walker, obviously back in the day.

We did. Yeah. Yeah.

Because Wisconsin became, became the laboratory.

Okay.

That's where they tried all of the most extreme, you know, corporate legislation. He got it all done. He was the darling of the Koch brothers, and that's what really propelled him. And it's kind of the same with DeSantis. What we've seen happen here in Florida has become the Republican blueprint state by state. So DeSantis was the guy, much like Scott Walker that said, I'll do it here first. If it works, you take it there. And another parallel I see that was pointed out here is that Walker got killed in the debates. And I think that's gonna be his big Achilles heel.

Okay.

Because I've seen him when he's.

He, he gets mad, doesn't he?

He gets real mad. He gets thrown off his talking points. He gets flustered.

Yeah. Yeah.

He, if, if he can't get coached, which maybe he will, maybe he won't. He's got plenty of time.

Yeah.

Then he's got a real Scott Walker problem.

But aren't you praying for somebody besides Trump? I mean, I, I just can't, I don't think I could stand another Trump Biden cycle. And so, which brings me to this idea. Biden is on the border, he's acting, he's already talking about his next big run. This is a guy who said, I'm never, I'm a one, I'm a one term guy. This is what he promised, didn't he?

Yeah.

He promised to, I'm a one term guy, I just want to, I just wanna move Trump out of there, which he successfully did, which was necessary. But now it's looking like, no, this old guy's gonna run again. He's gonna run when he is 80 years old or something like that. And so what is your take? Is he serious? I mean.

I, I really can't make heads or tails of it yet. I mean, I, I hope, listen, I, I, I haven't hated Biden.