The Big Business Disinformation Scam

Suzanne Spaulding’s attacks on consumer advocates and attorneys like Ring of Fire’s Mike Papantonio drew the attention of Sam Seder.

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We had started the show with the, the clip of what was happening in Ohio and there's gonna be, I mean, I would imagine, I would hope that there's gonna be some class action lawsuits that take place in that. And this just came on my, as you know, I usually go twice a year, started to go since post Covid, went in October, was planning to go into April to this Mass Torts conference that is held in Vegas every year. And people really like the interviews. I love going. It, it is incredible, the, what some of these attorneys are doing in terms of like corporate malfeasance and a lot of stories that we bring up over the years. And in fact, at one point I interviewed Fred Gray, Rosa Parks attorney, and there's a new Rosa Parks documentary out, but I don't wanna lose the sight of what I'm talking about.

But, one of the guys, the way I got into going to the, this Mass Torts conference because I had worked with Mike Papantonio, who is one of the biggest plaintiff's attorney in the country, a trial lawyer. And it has been fascinating watching that. Mike does a show called America's Lawyer. It's online now. It was on RT for a while. But it's about, it was about these court cases essentially, and also at different times like what the DOJ is or is not doing, what we're seeing in terms of like the right wing takeover of the court system, both on a federal level, but also a lot of state courts are elected. And over the years, there's been all sorts of like real malfeasance that has gone on there. And why does that happen?

That happens because states get, you know, state governments, they'll get paid by corporations or lobbyists to put judges on these courts who are going to be friendly to corporations. Pap was the lead attorney in that C8 DuPont case, or I should say the lead Litigator when it finally came to trial after like 20 years of this saga and basically put DuPont outta business, because they were dumping chemicals into a tributary of the Ohio River there. And this just came up, like somebody had sent this to me, and I know there's some other people talking about this a little bit, but, and I haven't paid too much attention to, you know, this think tank, which is called CSIS, the Center for Strategic and International Studies. They're a think tank that's been going around, they've been around since the Cold War. And I know Matt, like, you know, has followed some of this a little bit better than I have in terms of like, they're sort of like the supposed misinformation, like, think tank, right?

You mean, to police misinformation?

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's very, I think very official, like, folks that work with CSIS.

Yes.

Very establishment, right? Is the, is the.

Well, that's the thing, is like, you haven't paid too much attention to it. Look, misinformation is a problem. I don't like it being so closely associated with government officials and whatnot, but I mean, we do have a problem with that, but there's different mechanisms. But the problem is that it sort of feels like they're running out of stuff to do, or that these apparatus can be, can be twisted. And there's this woman, Suzanne Spaulding, who's one of the people there, and apparently, somebody had sent this to me. She had been in like some forum in 2021, and she's singling out about RT at that time. And RT, there was a lot of garbage on that network, to be honest.

Yeah.

But when you think about like the supposed disinformation that's coming out, she singles out Papantonio and I got a copy of this and she just retweeted this like a couple, like a week ago. This is from 2021. She just retweeted this out like a week ago. And she talks about the most predominant, you think about RT, you think about what's the most predominant vehicle of this disinformation coming out there. She writes the most predominant, or she said, is America's Lawyer.