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31:23Now PlayingKidney machines replaced with rockets and guns: Keir Starmer says security is his priority but where will the money for defence come from and when will he tell us? Patrick Maguire discusses his experiences on the road with Nigel Farage. If the polls are right, which major cabinet minister is likely to lose their seat? Spoiler: most of them. And as Labour moves closer to the EU, can they convince voters that it's a good idea?
Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times
Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times
Lara Spirit, deputy political editor, The Sunday Times
Producers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry Kitson
Executive producer: Molly Guinness
Picture credits: Getty Images
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