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Zuby sits down with Michael Jones to talk about why Islamic countries like Dubai and Doha actually feel more Christian to him than cities like San Francisco — and what that says about where the West has ended up. Zuby opens up about walking through San Francisco after interviewing Elon Musk and feeling genuinely depressed by the human suffering, the drug use, and the rainbow flags plastered over it all as if that made everything okay. He makes the case that the Gulf states have maintained the family values, marriage ethics, and view of human life that the West had not long ago — and that they're now smart enough to cherry-pick Western progress without importing its worst excesses. A candid and thought-provoking conversation about God, culture, the West, and whether the pendulum can ever swing back.
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