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4:57Now PlayingA former White House lawyer for Donald Trump is in hot water - and his presence has been completely scrubbed off his law firm's website - after it was revealed that he instructed Mark Meadows' aide Cassidy Hutchinson to lie under oath. This lawyer was the first one representing Hutchinson but was replaced shortly after his dangerous advice. Farron Cousins explains what happened.
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One of Donald Trump's lawyers who served as an ethics lawyer in his White House, has been completely scrubbed off of the law firm website, where he has been a partner since 2018. So four years of service, and then suddenly the law firm of, uh, what is it, Michael Best and Friedrich are pretending this man doesn't exist anymore. Why? Why suddenly has, uh, uh, Stephan Pastino been erased? Well, the answer of course lies in the recently released executive summary from the January 6th committee, where it was largely implied that Pastino, who at the time had served as Mark Meadow's aid, Cassidy Hutchinson's lawyer, told her to mislead the January 6th committee. Basically, you need to go in there and lie under oath, is what the committee said in their summary that Pasant told Cassidy Hutchinson. So here is what Hutchinson said in a sworn deposition. Pasant told her to do. We want you to get in, get you out. You were a secretary, you had an administrative role. Everyone's on the same page about this. The less you remember, the better. I, I don't think that you should be filling in any calendars or anything.
She wasn't a secretary, she was an aide. So right there, even though some people may say, well, really what's the difference? Now there is a big difference and lying about the role that you served under is of course, lying under oath. And the lawyer telling you to say that is, uh, probably not the best lawyer that you want on your team. But there's a reason why Mr. Patino likely was telling Cassidy Hutchinson that she needed to, uh, bend the truth a little bit. And that is of course, because at the time Pasant was being paid for by Donald Trump and his team, Cassidy Hutchinson, of course, dumped Pasant shortly before she did her heavily publicized public testimony in front of the January 6th committee. And it was at that point that Hutchinson, of course, started revealing information that shocked the country and of course, gave the January 6th committee a lot of, uh, new angles to go after with this investigation. Now, as it stands right now, it doesn't appear that Mr. Pastino is of course going to be facing any charges. After all, he was advising her as her lawyer. But this does, of course, raise some very serious questions about testimony from other individuals. And unfortunately with the committee, no longer basically existing, we are probably not gonna get those answers.
But those may be answers that the DOJ could get because they're not done with their investigation. No, that is still going on. And now that they've got this executive summary, and of course the criminal referrals from the January 6th committee, they might be able to get something done with this. But the fact that his own firm, granted he wasn't a founding member, he was just, you know, a lawyer there. They've scrubbed him. His bio is gone from the website. You will not find any mention of him anywhere on their website at all. It tells us that they know how big of an issue this is. They know how big of a problem this guy is, and they want to pretend that he never worked for them, but he did. Your firm by extension of this lawyer, Mike Best, and, uh, Friedrich, y'all were involved in this too.
Maybe you need to do a better job in the hiring process. Maybe screen these applicants a little bit better when they say, I want to be a lawyer at your firm, because if this is the kind of people you hire, this is the kind of publicity you'll attract, and that's probably not gonna be good for your law firm moving forward. As for Mr. Pino, again, disappeared from the website, but he still exists. He'll probably pop up somewhere, somewhere down the road at another firm that doesn't care about the negative publicity attached to him because there's plenty of those law firms around, he'll be back at it. But just know folks, if you ever decide to hire this guy as a lawyer, this is the kind of stuff he's been accused of doing, and it's things that could definitely get you in legal trouble.
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