The Rise of Tim Pool w/ Robert Silverman

Tim Poole is one of the biggest political Youtube personalities out there, but he uses that platform irresponsibly. He gives airtime to alt-right numenaries like former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio. He doesn't push back on anything they say, even when there is video evidence that they are lying. He provides cover for white nationalists while also performing as a gateway into the world of the alt-right. This interview previously aired on Peacock on August 16, 2021. Sam Seder discusses the rise of Tim Poole with Robert Silverman.

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Sam Seder: In the first segment you basically outlined for us the size of Tim Poole's audience. And the impact that he has on people we're talking about is a Youtube channel that regularly gets at least half a million views on their main videos. Up to a hundred million views a month. These are extraordinary numbers. reaching many many people the vast majority of whom are between the ages of 18 and 34. And he is I think what you could describe as sort of a gateway to what you know some people call the alt-right. Certainly, I’ve seen shows where he's had you know leaders of the Proud Boys on there. And basically saying you know a reasonable guy and presenting him that way and not pushing back. I mean I’m you know certainly open to the idea of having people I find you know problematic or worse on a show. But if I have them on I’m going to outline for the audience why they are problematic. And why there's controversy in their positions I’m going to attempt to expose them. and he does not do that.

Robert Silverman: No in fact he goes a step further. What Tim does and this was something that was said by Tim in a recorded conversation which a source sent to me. and in this recorded conversation Tim said of the Proud Boys, it sounds like they just show up to places where that they can show that they can start fights and then afterward play the victim. Now that is a very accurate description of what the Proud Boys do from Tim Poole that he said privately. Less than a month after that he had Enrique Tarrio than the chairman of the Proud Boys on his show. That question was not posed to Enrique Tarrio. What he did was is he read from and I’m fairly sure was the Wikipedia definition of fascism and asked if and asked which one of these do you believe. So that Tarrio could say no I don't think that the needs of the nation should be put before the individual. Because you know as we all know the far right never lies about what their actual beliefs are they're known for being truth-tellers is sort of their whole vibe. The other thing that he did is in that same recorded conversation the Proud Boys had just been in a series of fights with counter-protesters in Oregon. And one proud boy was caught on tape beating a counter-protester with a bat. Tim actually to his credit initially tweeted something critical of the Proud Boys that you know this is not cool I think what he said was before he deleted was that you guys are acting like Antifa. Which is that's not how I would phrase it but it's closer to criticism of their behavior. He got a message that Tim said in this conversation from Tarrio telling him to delete the tweet because he was going to get his guys hurt. So Tim did that and then he reposted the message saying it seems like these guys are not Proud Boys. The guy in the video is wearing a proud boy's t-shirt. so what Tim is doing is not only is he whitewashing their opinions on there he is willing to go to his then 600,000 Twitter followers and do damage control on their behalf.

Sam Seder: You should say super chats are just simply where people actually basically just pay you during the course of your broadcast and you read their comment may be on air or something like that. So okay so how did now I know that Tim started by being a videographer at Occupy. I interviewed him at that point. He was one he was right on the cutting edge of that technology. And I think he was one of the first now we should say he was just a videographer. He was at that very beginning basically following a correspondent who ultimately Tim and this correspondent had a falling out.