U. S. Military Deserves Most Of The Blame For Afghanistan

After, 20 years of nation building, the US backed Afghan government crumbled within days. Biden has received the lion's share of the blame, and he certainly bears some of it. But why is the US military and its senior leadership above criticism? Corrupt politicians are definitely at fault but the generals who orchestrated this war are as well.

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Sam Seder: I just want to read this segment of a piece by Laura Jedeed. not quite sure. She served in Afghanistan she's a writer and a videographer I’m not quite sure where you can find her stuff. But she has a Medium think it is j-e-d-e-e-d. And she talks about it this just really stuck out with me in terms of from the perspective of US military personnel as to you know sort of just the absolute quagmire I guess you could say. She writes I remember finding propaganda footage cut together from the soviet invasion and our own operation enduring whatever. I remember laughing at how stupid the afghans were to not know that we weren't Russians. And then eventually realizing I was the stupid one. I remember how every year the u.s would have to decide how to deal with the opium fields. There were a few options you could leave the fields alone and then the Taliban would shake the farmers down and use the money to buy weapons. Or you could carpet bomb the fields and then the farmers would join the Taliban for reasons that to me seem obvious. The third option and the one we went for a while I was there. Was to give the farmers fertilizer as an incentive to grow wheat instead of poppy. The farmers then sold the fertilizer to the Taliban who use it to make explosives for IEDs that could destroy a million-dollar MRAP. And maim everyone inside. I remember we weren't allowed to throw batteries away because the people who worked on base would go through the trash and collect hundreds of dead batteries wire them together so they had just enough juice for one charge and use that charge. To detonate an IED. I mean the idea that there is like I mean that to me is like you know probably the best sort of like encapsulation of at least the futility of whatever it is that we were supposedly going to do over there. You know regardless of what what what set of ambitions anybody had. As to whether they were going to build a society or I don't know conquer the afghani. Whatever it was. And this is you know as futile as that sounds you know the dismal part is on the other end of things. For the afghani people.

Matt Lech: Yeah you say the word ambition and I think you know there's a lot of time that's going to be spent on blaming the political leaders that led us here. And I think that's all worthwhile. I think the military needs an awful lot of attention to and the way that just the complete anti-democratic monstrosity it became. Like just matter of factly saying we co-opted the media and they run-up to Iraq and that time. like that's just part of their that's their business right? It's our job to do that. It's their job to tell a new president that like give them only a limited number of options which are all like increasing their footprint in a certain place like that. Like our military is completely out of control. And I think like that like like the ambition is different guys like Petraeus or McChrystal or the Flynn’s right? Like their ambition gets just scars an entire country. I mean that that's right you know it's like it's just a really horrible corporation. And with all you know the exact same sort of you know the exact same but the same dynamics where you know, there is some semblance of like a broad sense of survival for the corporation is important. So that I can move up in that corporation. But beyond that’s it. And so the survival of the corporation is also a function of what's going to be the best entrance of my ascendancy within that corporation. And so every decision that follows becomes that. We're going to train these people in a way so that they need me.

Emma Vigeland: And yeah exactly. And that's in and you know that that and by the way too speaking of like those arms we gave to the Afghan troops without really you know training them to be self-sufficient with it. Those are in the Taliban’s hands now. just see you guys know.