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Do We Need to Be BRIBING People OUT of Theism and Into Atheism?! | Matt Dillahunty & Mandisa Thomas
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Rey calls in arguing that atheists misunderstand why people believe—claiming believers don't accept religion based on evidence, so evidence won't convince them otherwise. Matt strongly disagrees, insisting all beliefs result from reasoning (good or bad) and that addressing bad reasoning is the only honest method available. The call deteriorates when Rey suggests atheists should offer alternatives to what religion provides. Matt emphatically rejects this "salesman" approach, arguing atheism itself offers nothing—it's merely a position that gods don't exist. He distinguishes this from skepticism and humanism, which do offer benefits. After repeatedly asking Ray what benefits atheism has worth selling and receiving evasive responses, Matt loses patience and ends the call, frustrated by Ray's circular reasoning and failure to answer direct questions.
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