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John from New Jersey calls in to explain why God allows suffering, arguing that God isn't causing bad things but rather letting humans evolve by overcoming natural challenges. He suggests humanity is improving over time and that problems like cancer exist so we can develop solutions. The hosts push back hard, questioning how anything can be "random" if God created everything, and pointing out that cancer from the sun has nothing to do with free will. Things get contentious when John essentially blames people for being "lazy knuckleheads" who don't work hard enough to cure diseases, and when he claims Christian morality makes people better despite examples like January 6th. John can't answer questions about needless suffering—people who suffer and die without any purpose—and eventually exits the conversation after politics come up. The hosts are left frustrated, calling his argument "bootstrap theology" that simultaneously claims God is all-powerful while placing all the blame on humans.
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