Pastor Told Him He's Going to HELL?! | Matt Dillahunty & Taylor SH
July 16, 2026
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Jason calls in as a gay man who still believes in "a higher power" after a pastor told him he was going to hell — though he's since redefined heaven and hell as states of mind rather than literal places. Matt and Taylor gently unpack why he's still holding on, using the mind-bending split-brain thought experiment to question the very idea of a soul. But the real conversation turns out to be about something more human: fear of death and wanting to feel cared for. Jason opens up about struggling with nihilism, gets a book recommendation, and leaves the call thanking the hosts for being LGBT allies. A surprisingly warm, low-drama call that goes from theology straight to the heart of why we believe what we believe.
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