Twitter's Jack Dorsey Could Face Prison For Lying To Congress

There’s a lot of new information in the recently-released Twitter Files, but the big issue is whether they reveal a cover up that could lead to criminal charges. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.

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There's a lot of new information in the recently released Twitter files, but the big issue is whether they reveal a coverup that could lead to criminal charges. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins joins me to talk about what's happening on that and a lot of other issues. Farron, there's a lot of, lot of things going on right now. You know, when I, when I looked at this, the, the Jack Dorsey has a potential problem here. I wanted to go back and see what did he actually tell Congress? Did he, did he commit perjury? Did he lie to Congress? Because there's case after case where, you know, people are thrown in jail for that.

Yeah.

And so what I looked at, I wanted to see what the actual words were. And one of the questions were asked by a Democrat from Pennsylvania, he asked, was social media, is it rigged to censor conservatives? Is that true of Twitter? And, and he said, no, we're not censoring people. And then he was asked again, by another, are you censoring people? Dorsey said, no. He was asked again, are you, is there shadow banning going on with Twitter? He said, absolutely not. You know, we've all seen it. I, I think of the case as a matter of fact, there's tons of cases, but the case I think of is Roger Clemons. Talk about the, talk about the similarities here.

Yeah. Roger Clemens, as we all know, many, many years ago, was hauled before Congress and asked, you know, are you using steroids in Major League baseball? And he says, absolutely not. Don't use steroids. Well, we find out later, he is. So technically he lied to Congress. They pursue charges against him. They ultimately got a mistrial and, and acquitted him. But he lied to Congress about something inconsequential. Congress could not have put sanctions on him.

Mm-hmm.

For taking steroids. That's not their job. And it's the same with Dorsey's testimony there. If he had just said, yeah, we do it all the time. I can do what I want. It's my company. Congress could not have done anything to him about it.

Well, explain that. Explain that. He, there, isn't there's something in, right in the contract, that says, yeah, I can shadow, I can censor, I can do whatever I wanna do.

And Twitter's own terms of service that are still active today, it says we reserve the right to de-amplify content, to hide content, to limit the availability and, and I forget the exact terminology, but they say, yeah, we can limit things. And if by you're signing up for Twitter, you agree to let us do that. So he could have said that in that thing. He could have said, you know what? We don't make it a habit, but it's right there in our terms of service. If we need to, we can do it.

Is it bad lawyering? Did, did his lawyers say, yeah, go lie to Congress? I mean, this is just three questions. There's, there's a lot more.

Right.

But there were three questions, and I compare it to Roger Clemens, who was lying about performance enhancing drugs, and yeah, they found him in contempt. And I mean, it's serious stuff.

It, it really is.

So if his lawyer said, yeah, Jack, just lie about it. And I'm wondering whether or not part of that had to do. I, I don't know, I don't remember the timing. Did it have anything to do with, just prior to, to Musk coming and making the buy? Was, was there a time element there?

This was, this was I think long before.

Yeah, I think it was.

Long before Musk was even in the picture at all here.

Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, he, I know that. Did he ever appear after that? I guess I'm wondering, close to it.

Not that I've seen. But, but as you mentioned, the, the questioning does go on.