Trump Caught On Tape Admitting He Lost 2020 Election

In one of his taped conversations with author Ramin Setoodeh, Donald Trump admitted that he lost the 2020 election, and then immediately tried to backtrack on that statement. But the admission is there, and now some legal experts believe that this could be used against him in some of his criminal trials as proof that he knew he had lost. If nothing else, the tapes will certainly create a mild headache for Trump with prosecutors, as Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains.

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*This transcript was generated by a third-party transcription software company, so please excuse any typos.

During one of his many conversations with author Raman Ude, who of course has the new book out called Apprentice in Wonderland. And he interviewed Donald Trump at least six times for the book, all of which are actually on tape because that's what good reporters do. And during one of these conversations, Ude says that he has Donald, uh, Donald Trump on tape admitting that he lost the 2020 election. Here's what he says. Uh, Donald Trump was talking with, uh, Fox News, well, former Fox News host Geraldo Rivera, right after the election. And he said that, uh, Rivera called him after he lost the election, which he then quickly tried to correct and say, I won the election. But when they said we lost, that's when Geraldo called. And then, you know, Geraldo kind of went back and forth with him calling him a lot because Geraldo apparently him off.

But Trump admitted, Geraldo called me after I lost the election. That statement right there, I lost the election in 2020. That is what at least one legal expert is telling us is a horrible statement for Donald Trump to make because it can and likely will be used against him in a court of law. Here's what, uh, law professor at Harvard University Lawrence Tribe had to say about this statement. This statement made on tape and on the record by Mr. Trump would be admissible in evidence against him on the issue of his corrupt intent in the four Smith indictments in DC That SCOTUS is Inex inexcusably keeping on hold in United States v Trump. So basically what Lawrence Tribe is telling us is that Donald Trump has this trial in DC and also the one in Georgia, by the way, where this could be admissible, where he claims that no, I didn't attempt to steal the election. I genuinely believed, which is his illegal defense, that the election was stolen. So I was just trying to prove that using my powers of the presidency to show the public that it was stolen, I believed it was stolen. He has said to the courts, well, you're on record now saying you lost. So yeah, that's gonna blow a pretty big hole in your legal defense.

And here is how Ude says that he was basically able to get Donald Trump to open up and feel more relaxed in order to make such a statement. He says he was very comfortable that day because we were actually watching Clips of The Apprentice that I think part of the reason the mask slipped off was that he was remembering his life as an entertainer. He was very amused. He was excited to see himself in the boardroom. This is all performance art for Donald Trump. So, so two days, like, listen, we were watching video clips of The Apprentice. He loved it. He was relaxed and happy, and the mask slipped off. He admitted that he lost it when he was once again feeling relaxed, not on edge, not in campaign mode, but in entertainer mode.

And that's when he accidentally told the truth. And yes, by the way, Lawrence tribe is correct. This can of course be a, uh, admitted in court. Now, is it gonna completely destroy Donald Trump's legal defenses? Probably not. But there are a couple other instances over the years where Donald Trump has slipped and admitted he lost the election. So will it create a headache for him in court? Absolutely. Is it gonna be enough to convince a jury that he knew he lost the election and he's lying about what he was doing after that? That remains to be seen and.