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27:48Now PlayingAmerica’s Lawyer E109: The Defense Department has had to backtrack on their plea deal with the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks after massive public backlash – we’ll bring you the details. A new poll found that a majority of Americans believe that the country is sliding into chaos. And bookies, psychics, and all other sorts of people who think they can see the future are making their predictions about who will win this year’s election. All that, and more is coming up, so don’t go anywhere – America’s Lawyer starts right now.
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Hi, I'm Mike Papantonio, and this is America's Lawyer. The Defense Department has had to backtrack on their plea deal with a mastermind of 9/11 after massive public backlash. We'll bring you the details. A new poll, well, it found that a majority of Americans believe that the country's sliding into chaos. And bookies, psychics and all other sorts of people who think they can see the future are making their predictions about who's gonna win this next election. We got some interesting stories about that. All that and more, don't go anywhere. America's Lawyer is coming up.
Last week, the Defense Department announced that they had reached a plea deal with the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. Two days later, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced that the deal is revoked. This came after tremendous backlash from the families of the victims, politicians and first responders. I've got Farron Cousins to talk about it. This has had to end like this. Thank God somebody said, are you freaking kidding me? You know this plea deal, it's another story, we talk about all the time about how the Department of Justice, and here it's Department of Defense and the Department of Justice working together, always take the least, the path of least resistance. That's what happened here. Thank goodness Austin was there to say, hell no. No, this isn't going to happen. We're in an election year. He was appointed by Biden, we're in an election year. How's it gonna look for the White House to say, yeah, you killed 3000 people, but we're gonna give you a break.
You've learned your lesson.
Yeah. It's been going on for 20 years to begin with, right?
Yeah. Okay. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, in Guantanamo Bay, and again, 20 plus years, this guy has been held there. We know who he is. We know what he's done. This prosecution should have happened before George W. Bush even left office.
Oh, of course.
But it didn't. It didn't happen under Obama. It didn't happen under Trump. And now finally it could happen under Biden, and they say, oh, no, let's just do a plea deal. We're tired. We don't want to do this. It's too difficult. Oh, there could be issues with the torture part of it and then we can't admit this evidence. You don't even need any of that. We know what happened here.
Can I tell you, these heads would already be rolling had it been reversed, had they been in Saudi Arabia where they came from, it would've already been over. 20 years these people have had a chance to live, breathe, eat. 3000 family members, they don't. You know? And so we now have, but to me, I just, I almost can't get my arms around it sometimes when I watch the Department of Justice and the Department of Defense here too. You had, what was her name? She, the general, that said, hey, we're gonna.
Susan K. Escallier.
Okay. Susan K. Escallier has been overseeing this whole thing. Right. She's been doing it for years, apparently. And she finally says, eh, it's a lot of work. We don't really want to do this. And she tries to blame it on the idea, well, if we do this, this is gonna cause the potential, additional terrorism activity. We heard that 20 years ago, Susan. So, as I look at this story, there is zero, zero way to justify what they're doing. It's not the torture. There's been plenty of cases they've overcome.
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