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4:29Now PlayingMatt Gaetz unveiled a new plan to give Donald Trump immunity from prosecution. Gaetz said that he could call Donald Trump to testify in front of Congress as a witness against the government, and then he'd be protected as a whistleblower and wouldn't be able to be prosecuted. But even Gaetz thinks his plan won't work, but that didn't stop him from spitting it out during an interview with Charlie Kirk this week. Farron Cousins discusses the desperation of Trump's allies.
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This week, Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz, cooked up a little scheme to give Donald Trump immunity from all of the prosecutions that he is facing now, Gaetz has not put this scheme into motion. He just kind of threw it out as a possible idea during an interview with Charlie Kirk this week. And the idea is to basically call Donald Trump to testify in front of Congress. And when he does that, we'll give him immunity as a whistleblower, and then nobody can prosecute him for anything. Here's what Matt Gaetz said. You can actually bring President Trump in to give testimony to the Congress, and in doing so, immunize him. Now, there's different forms of immunity that take place at the committee level, subcommittee level. In some instances for full immunity, you have to have more of a super majority vote. So they basically want to provide him with some kind of a whistleblower status protection, um, which is what these immunity deals would be.
Uh, but he has nothing to blow the whistle on. Like you can't be a whistleblower just 'cause somebody wants to call you, that you actually have to provide evidence of some kind of wrongdoing. And the only kind of wrongdoing Donald Trump could provide evidence of would be his own. So you really can't say he's a whistleblower if the person he's blowing the whistle on is himself. So I don't think that would work. And to be fair, Matt Gaetz also does not think it's, it will work. But this is the level that these people have sung to, like Matt Gaetz has clearly put thought into it. Like that idiot sits around thinking, how can I help Donald Trump? Well, I guess I, I mean, here's a possibility he had put thought into it. This is my congressman who has done not a thing, by the way, for our district the entire time he's been in office.
He, we've actually had multiple crises down here in his district, and he's just totally ignored them. But this is what he thinks about this is how he spends his day when he is not filling in on Newsmax. He's sitting there like, how can I help Donald Trump today? As if that matters in the grand scheme of the United States of America. But again, even Gates doesn't seem to think this is a good idea because he actually thinks that if they were to do that, it could technically open Donald Trump up to a different kind of prosecution because Trump's a filthy liar. Here's what Mag Gaetz said. The downside of bringing anyone before Congress to give testimony is that if you say something that is material and that is not accurate, uh, that can create a cascade of follow-up charges. So it's never something you, you typically think of as a first step if you say something that is material and that is not accurate. Oh, so you mean if he lies under oath and you're pretty confident based on your statement that he would
Lie under oath and then would just prosecute him for that instead? Um, and also by the way, Matt Gaetz, you're, you're a lawyer. I know you actually didn't practice law for very long at all before you just went straight into politics. So you may not be aware of this, but whistleblower protection does not provide somebody with complete blanket immunity from being prosecuted for anything ever, no matter what. It would have to be specifically related to the crimes that they saw and were possibly involved in themselves. So unless you're gonna get Donald Trump to come in and testify about the documents he stole, about his attempts to overturn the election and about his tax issues up in the state of New York and about the phone call down in Georgia, where he blows the whistle again on himself, unless you have him testify about each and every one of those things, providing him with immunity is not going to protect him from everything. You should know that, and I'm willing to bet you do, but you also probably know that Charlie Kirk's audience, probably not the sharpest knives in the drawer, so you figured you could pull one over on 'em, give 'em some false hope and make 'em think that you were actually out there doing something to protect their cult leader.
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