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4:04Now PlayingFani Willis has already secured her first official "flipper" among the 19 co-defendants in the Georgia indictment, and reports suggest that she is offering lots of plea deals to people willing to take them. While some may be reluctant to accept these offers, others are more open to the idea in order to avoid a lengthy - and very expensive - criminal trial. All of this is bad news for Donald Trump, as he's the only person that has zero chance of being offered a deal. Farron Cousins explains what's happening.
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The very first individual to flip in the Georgia indictments was a man by the name of Scott Hall, who was a former Republican poll watcher and a bail bondsman. Conveniently enough, right? But he agreed recently to, instead of being charged with seven felony accounts, he's gonna plead to five misdemeanors. He's gonna avoid prison, get a little bit of home confinement, a little bit of, uh, community service and probation. But most importantly, he agreed to testify truthfully and honestly against anyone that he has called to testify against. And I tell you that in order to preface this next question, which comes from YouTube community member Cheryl Lamo, 2 8 6 6, who asks, we've had our first flipper in the Georgia case. Do you think it's officially flipping season? Oh, it is 100% flipping season right now in the state of Georgia. Fanny Willis has come out and offered multiple different co-defendants plea deals. And the reason for that, according to legal analysts and experts, you know, the people smarter than me who know how this works a little bit better than I do. They've pointed out that Fannie Willis doesn't wanna try 19 people. Fannie Willis really only wants to try one person according to these experts. And that person, as I'm sure you, you can guess, is Donald Trump. So that's the one she's after, right? That is the big fish in the pond. That is the one she wants to get. But she is going to have to try other people.
But if you can get enough people to flip, right, because that's the goal. You don't want to have to go through this 19 different times. You don't want to use up all your ammo in the first couple trials so that the people coming up with trials months away, they know what you're gonna do and say, you don't wanna give up your strategies like that. So if she can get more people to flip, here's what's gonna happen. And this is the way I've explained it, uh, uh, in the past, it's basically like a ladder, right? Donald Trump is sitting up here at the top of the ladder, but then you got all these people down here at the bottom rung too, you know, and a lot of them facing similar Rico charges. So Scott Hall was at the bottom of the ladder. He's not a guy that was communicating directly with Donald Trump, but he was communicating with people along that ladder, leading up to Donald Trump.
So you get a guy like Scott Hall to agree to turn state's witness. He can testify about maybe the person in the rung above him on that ladder. Then you go to that person, you say, listen, I got this guy over here. He's got you cold on x, y, and Z crimes. We take this thing to trial. He's gonna go up there and he is gonna blow your whole defense outta the water. Do you want that? Do you want to go to jail for a minimum of five years? Or we play, let's make a deal. And you take behind, uh, take what's behind door number one here. So that person's gonna say, all right, I'll do it. I'll, I'll plead.
And Fannie Willis, her prosecutor's gonna say, okay, wonderful. What can you tell us about the person on the rung above you on that ladder? And so on and so forth. That's how you get these people to flip. And eventually you do work your way up to Donald Trump. Hopefully, you know, some of the higher rungs have direct contact with him, direct knowledge of things he may have done that would help prosecutors secure a conviction. So is it flipping season? Yes, it is. And Willis right now is wheeling and dealing. She's talking to people. She's making the offers. It's up to them to take 'em. 'cause if they don't, the odds of them coming out of this without a conviction are exceptionally low.
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