When Corporate Criminals Don't Look Like Criminals

Via The News with Rick Sanchez: Somehow, our system of justice allows people to do things that they don't necessarily have to be responsible for. Is that what we're seeing with opioid manufacturers? Attorney and host of America's Lawyer, Mike Papantonio, joins Rick Sanchez to explain more.

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New documentary out. It tackles this issue. It's called the Oxy Kingpins. It's going to air on the TYT network. Here, take a look.

The people who were making the drugs, they, they understood that this was a cash cow for them. The manufacturers, the distributors, the big store pharmacies, they're all part of it and that's why we've brought a lawsuit. They knew that there were people in the field that were illegal distributors. They're saying, I don't even know who these people are. They know exactly who the people are.

That was Mike Papantonio and that is Mike Papantonio, he joins us now live. Pap, so much, so good to see you. As you know, Mike Papantonio is the host of American Lawyer here at RT America. We're so honored to have him on to talk about this. Something he knows as well as anybody out there, anybody in the country. Let's start with the idea that in our system, that somehow our system of justice, allows people to do things that they don't necessarily have to be responsible for. Is, is that kind of what we're seeing here? And is it a system wide problem?

It is Rick. Let me step outside of the opioid litigation and talk about the general problem. In MBA school, here's what they're taught. They're taught you can take big risks and you can make big profit and here's how it works. You're going to do some stuff that you're going to get caught for. You're going to have dangerous products that you know are going to kill people. Your scientists say is they're very dangerous. They shouldn't be on the market. You're going to destroy entire ecosystems because of the chemicals that you put in the ground, knowing that it's going to destroy that ecosystem. At the end of the day, though, all you have to be concerned about is how do you interact with regulators. Because the EPA dysfunctional, the FDA dysfunctional, the SEC dysfunctional and to some degree, the DOJ dysfunctional, is going to come to you and say, you know, we're going to fine you Mr. widget maker for $150 million.

To the average person on the street it sounds like a lot of money. But widget maker has made $10 billion that year. So widget maker says, yeah, I'll pay the $150 million, I mean, $150 million because they make a big profit. Then they say, when things really get bad, when people like Papantonio or Mark Lanier, my friend out in Texas, or the other folks that are involved in this national litigation on opioids. When we go after you in big numbers, we're going to get protection from the courts because that's the way the system works. And we're going to, we're going to use the system. They're, they're, they're taught this in MBA school and the problem is, let's walk away from opioids, let me just talk about in general. Until we perp walk, until you put them in a perp walk, these corporate types, whether it's chemical, whether it's medical, whatever it is, when we know they're criminals, but they don't look like criminals because they're dressed up in Armani suits.

They drive Bentleys. They have, they have, they have fancy watches. They come from an elite MBA school. So we don't treat them the same way, Rick. Our culture is upside down. The kid on the street with a hoodie on selling marijuana on the corner, if he does it three times and he's caught, he's going to prison the rest of his life.

Yeah, yeah.

These cats commit man, manslaughter by the hundreds of thousands.

We just, well, I mentioned that.

That's the comparison.

When I looked at the numbers, 3000 people were apparently killed by Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, right.

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