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4:26Now PlayingA judge on Thursday denied a motion by former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows to delay his surrender to the court, and granted Fani Willis the authority to issue an arrest warrant if he doesn't turn himself in by 12:30pm on Friday. The problem that Meadows has is that none of his legal arguments are working, and he has a massive hearing coming up early next week that could seal his fate. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains what's happening.
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Mark Meadows. Out of all of the people that have been indicted along with Donald Trump in Georgia 19 total, including Trump, uh, Mark Meadows seems to be having the toughest time with this because Mark Meadows so far has been repeatedly slapped around by District Attorney Fannie Willis. And on Thursday morning, he was also smacked around by a federal district judge who told him, we will not be granting you an extension. I am siding with Fannie Willis who said, you cannot have an extension and you will turn yourself in Friday by 12:30 PM Eastern, or I'm gonna let her go ahead and issue that arrest warrant and send the cops after you. Now, as of the time of this recording, which is Friday morning, by the way, uh, Meadows has not yet surrendered. So I do think he will, right? I mean, I don't think he's just gonna say, fine, send the cops after me.
But here's the big deal, right? Again, we know Meadows is gonna surrender. He is not gonna let them send the cops after him. But Meadows has repeatedly failed with the arguments that he has tried to make in court so far. And the reason that is a big deal, you know, this isn't just about, Hey, turn yourself in or we're gonna arrest you. It's because next week, early next week, Mark Meadows has to go in front of a federal judge and make these same arguments. Not that he shouldn't be arrested, but basically that my case does not belong in state court. It belongs in federal court, which is why he didn't want to have to surrender himself anyway. 'cause he says, Hey, this isn't the venue where I'm gonna be charged. I'm gonna move mine to federal court. But he has not successfully been able to make that argument in front of the judge so far, the judge basically told him, I don't care.
You still, while it's in state court, have to abide by the state court rules. But here's another problem that Mark Meadows has, and this was laid out by Fannie Willis. And her response to the judge, or her response, I guess to his motion, requesting a uh, extension, she pointed out the fact that if Meadows is actually arguing that what he did in Georgia was part of his official duties as the chief of staff to the president, which is what would make it move to federal court. She says, well, wait a minute though. Wouldn't that be a violation of the Hatch Act? So Meadows, if you are successful in moving your case from state court to federal court, 'cause you make the successful argument that, Hey, I was a federal official just working on campaign stuff, awesome. You can get hit with new charges. So you're damned if you do, damned if you don't at this point, bud, you better hope it stays in state court because if that thing gets moved over to federal, you easily could get popped with Hatch Act violations that are actually pretty significant.
See, this is what happens when you're part of a, you know, alleged criminal empire. Everything you touch just immediately turns into potentially illegal activity depending on who is looking at it. And Meadows is in for a rough time, first and foremost. I don't think he has a valid argument to move it from state court to federal court to begin with.
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