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During his testimony on Monday where he was seeking to move his case from state court to federal court, Mark Meadows appeared to admit, under oath, that Donald Trump was attempting to break the law and knew it. This testimony could be the final nail in the coffin for Trump's defense, but its probably to early to start writing that epitaph at this point. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains why Meadows' testimony is so bad for Trump.
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So on Monday of this week, Mark Meadows had his very important hearing in front of the judge, begging the judge to please let him move his case from state court in Georgia to federal court. He took the stand for more than three hours, and during that time, he effectively blamed everything on Donald Trump. Now, he also, for the record, undercut his case of having it moved from state court to federal court by, as the prosecutors pointed out, not actually using any tools of the executive branch, and instead went to private individuals, which undercuts his entire defense of, Hey, I was doing it for the government. But he did make it clear during his three hours of testimony under oath, that Donald Trump directed him to do this. But more importantly, Meadows said that Donald Trump was sick and tired of losing court cases. At that point, he had already lost 60 different court cases trying to overturn election results.
So in Meadow's words, Donald Trump was trying to find a non litigious way to secure his victory. So he made the phone call to Brad Raff Asperger asked him to go find 11,000 votes, and the rest is history. But Meadow's admission that Donald Trump wanted to find a way to change the election results without going through the court system kind of proves that Donald Trump thought, listen, we can't do this legally, so we are gonna have to find another way. Now, Donald Trump has wriggled out of more conundrums and issues than we can count. So we cannot write the epitaph on Donald Trump's political grave just yet. However, under ordinary circumstances with an ordinary defendant, this would 100% be the nail in the coffin, right? Your, your top confidant, your right hand man, taking the stand under oath, swearing that you wanted to find a way outside of the law to do a thing.
Yeah, an ordinary defendant that's gonna get you convicted every time. Now again, because it's Trump, because he is gotten out of so much trouble in the past, we cannot make that same prediction. However, this statement from Meadows can and will be used against Donald Trump when it comes time for his actual prosecution. As for Meadows, we're still waiting to see if the judge is going to move his case to federal court. But as I said, the prosecution pointed out that you didn't do this as a federal government employee. You did it. Basically, it's just a favor to Donald Trump. You worked for the guy, so you spent your off time
Going through non-governmental sources to do the bad things that Trump is accused of doing. So it was not actually your role in the federal government to do this. You just did it to help out a friend. Either way, Meadow's testimony for both Meadows and Trump was not good and probably isn't going to give them the results that they've been hoping for.
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