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Stephen Gardner describes how the suspect carefully hides his face while walking through areas on campus, eventually entering the Losi Center building and accessing the roof via a staircase. From there, it would take only seconds to reach a position to take a shot. The speaker believes the FBI likely has video evidence of the shooting but hasn’t released it due to the ongoing trial.
He explains there are multiple surveillance cameras in the area — including near the Losi Center, the computer science building, and overlooking Charlie Kirk’s location — and cell phone data can track the suspect’s path. He thinks the FBI likely has more photos and videos than have been made public and is withholding them until trial to build the case.
The discussion highlights inconsistencies:
Earlier video showed the suspect limping (possibly to conceal a weapon), but later footage shows no limp and no clear weapon in his pants.
Only a cell phone is visible in his pocket in stairwell footage.
The towel he carries appears too floppy to conceal a rigid gun.
Questions remain about whether the gun was already on the roof or assembled there.
They also discuss confusion over the suspect’s hat (images show different styles/logos) and note evidence the FBI reportedly has: a screwdriver with the suspect’s prints, a palm print from the roof, and a Converse shoe print leading from the scene to where the gun was left.
Finally, they question the authenticity and wording of text messages allegedly between the suspect and his roommate/boyfriend, noting odd gaps, formal language (“vehicle,” “outfit,” “retrieve”) inconsistent with a 22-year-old, and uncertainty about the texts’ original source.
The speaker also finds it curious that the entire incident lasted 33 minutes and the suspect was found 33 hours later, though he admits that could be coincidence.
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