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3:59Now PlayingProsecutors in Fulton County, Georgia have sent a clear message to Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and Mark Meadows: You guys aren't going to be offered plea deals. These three men were the ring leaders of the plot to overturn Georgia's election results, and the fact that Fani Willis wants to prosecute all of them means that she likely has what she needs to secure a conviction. This new information also shows that analysts had been way off about Willis' intentions, as Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains.
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It was revealed this week that Fulton County prosecutors led, of course by Fulton County, DEA, Fannie Willis, have decided that they are not going to be offering plea deals to Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, or Trump's former chief of Staff, Mark Meadows. Those three individuals are officially as of now out of the running to even consider receiving a plea deal from the prosecutors. This is massive. You may think like, oh, okay, so they're not gonna get plea deals. So what? No. So what? Like, that's everything folks. These three men, Trump, Giuliani Meadows, are effectively the ringleaders of the entire scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 election. There's only actually one missing from that list, and that's John Eastman. Eastman has not yet been offered a plea deal, but he is asking to be tried separately, to be tried earlier, and to move up the deadline for a plea deal to earlier next year.
So Eastman, I think, wants a plea deal. He just hasn't been offered one yet. I do believe in the end, he will be offered one because the deadline for plea deals to be offered is June of 2024. So there's still a chance that people like Giuliani and Meadows might be offered a plea deal. But the fact that right now prosecutors are the ones saying that it's off the table again, is a huge deal. Here's what it tells us. First of all, it tells us that all of the legal experts have been wrong. Legal experts and analysts, myself included, by the way, although I'm not an expert, um, all predicted that Fannie Willis didn't want to have a bunch of trials, that she didn't want to have a bunch of defendants. She only wanted to have one. Donald Trump. Clearly that's not the case. She wants to have at least three of them, Trump, Giuliani, and Meadows.
So everybody, including myself, we were wrong about that. But it also tells us that she thinks, and her team thinks that they have enough to be able to secure convictions against these individuals, and more importantly, not only enough to secure convictions, but that they've already gotten enough to where they don't need these men to cooperate. That's the key. That's why this is so significant. They either have evidence that already existed or they've gotten enough evidence from the people who have taken plea deals to say, you know what? We don't need these guys. We can get them and we're gonna get them. That is why this is such a big deal. Now, if these three men, of course, are convicted under Georgia's RICO law, which is what they're all indicted under, that, that does come with a five-year minimum prison sense, minimum
Being the key word there. They cannot be sentenced to fewer than five years in prison if convicted under that law. So Giuliani Meadows and Trump could spend five years in a Georgia State penitentiary. Now, that's obviously putting the cart before the horse at this point. We've gotta get there first. But the fact that they have said plea deals for these dudes that are off the table kind of tells us that they may have a lot more than we know about. They've gotten a lot better cooperation than we know about, and these men are probably screwed.
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