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How To Bounce Forward After Failure - Andrew Thorp King, Punk Rocker

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January 24, 2023

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Let’s not sugarcoat it—**failure blows**. It can leave you curled up in a ball of shame, binging ice cream and wondering if you’ll ever feel like a competent adult again. Depression? Check. Identity crisis? Double check. Existential dread? Oh, hell yeah.

But here’s the twist: **failure doesn’t have to be the end—it can be your launchpad**. If you’re willing to wade through the wreckage, sift through the crap, and salvage the gold nuggets hidden in life’s dumpster fires, you can actually bounce **forward** into something better.

That’s right. **FAILURE. F***ING. RULES.** (Once it’s done kicking your ass.)

In this no-BS convo, we dive into:

- Why these five specific failures made the cut (and what they can teach you about not dying inside)

- How producing punk rock bands helped our guest flip the bird to conventional success

- The gut-wrenching decision to chase joy over job security—aka, passion over a paycheck

- What to do when your fear is a clingy little gremlin stopping you from going after what lights you up

- Whether you really need a Plan B or if you should just cannonball into the deep end

- How long it takes to go from “I suck at life” to “failure made me awesome”

- The underrated magic of **humor** when everything's going to hell

- What it means to stay *authentic* while your dreams are doing a faceplant

- And that one epic moment where leaning into the suck turned out to be the most badass move of all

This one’s for anyone who’s ever failed, flopped, or faceplanted and lived to tell the tale. Because once you stop fearing failure, **you become f***ing unstoppable**.

About Dr. John’s Guest:

Andrew Thorp King is an executive fintech banker, spy novelist, speaker, punk rocker, podcaster, ex-bodybuilder, cigar lover, and serial entrepreneur. He founded two independent record labels—Thorp Records and Sailor’s Grave Records—and has invested in many spaces, including online lending, fitness, lead generation, and independent music. He is the author of Failure Rules! The 5 Rules of Failure for Entrepreneurs, Creatives and Authentics.

Andrew Thorp King is also a serial failure. He has crashed and burned through bankruptcy, divorce, mortgage default, public assistance, and multiple business failures. But, like a jack-in-the-box after a punch, he pops back up every time, rebuilding his life—informed by failure—with a big smile on his face.

Failure can ruin lives and families. There’s no denying it. It can destroy your health and obliterate your self-esteem. But it also holds a lot of value on the road to success.

FAILURE RULES! walks you through five essential rules to help you pull value from any failure—as proven by Andrew Thorp King’s personal stories of dramatic, cascading failures in business, relationships, art, and life.

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